Camping ain't all bad, but i'm only doing it so I don't have to teach and the dream team can live on.

Also can people please not jump on an "E1" just because I said I found it easier than what grade it gets, that wasn't my point. In fact Fool's Gold is quite a fitting name for the route.

Ditto, but with way more internetz.


I'd have been up for going down early but I'm in till 4/5 on fridays unfortunately, thanks anyway

I've been wanting to do this route since the last time I visited Bus Stop, didn't know you'd done it till I mentioned it to you. I don't plan on 'jumping on it' if the weather's off, I'd rather chicken out and do a fun VS/HVS instead.

& If I end up teaching, I guess its out of the window completely.

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No longer VP : But still Vaguely Philippino
FYI: Actions speak louder than wombats

I have arranged with Roger to take one of the MAM spaces - but can I still have a lift with the club please?

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i dont plan to "jump on it" i was thinking if jcb did it i would second to see how i felt and if i thought i was up to it i would lead it. oh and MILF-Hunter you can campus anything if youre determined enough

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Miss Jeanes

sorry about this, i might just have to smoke and calm down... Go for the slate, i might pop over at some point and see you guys there to have a go at launching pad, we'll see

Shiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiit, seem to have missed the boat with this, could I have a place on the reserves pleeeeeeeeease? I will sprint across Birmingham to get money to whoever needs it if necessary.

Your comment is fair laurence. If someone was to go and try fools gold thinking that it was easier than other E1's and felt they could do it based on your comment, and something happened i'm pretty sure you'd feel bad and thats not fair on you. So you pointing out it is still a serious shag is fair.

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All this talk about wanky slate, folks cant see the wood for the trees. North Whales is spelt D-I-N-A-S C-R-O-M-L-E-C-H.

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Developing Nicely.

I think you mispelled that Gareth, it's actually spelt P-A-R-I-S-E-L-L-A-'-S.

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massive punter

Thats more like what I was trying to say guys, the fitting name for the route bit was going a bit too far, do whatever you want with your weekend, its not a bad route by any means. Speaking from my own experience (in my time i've never missed an Ogwen trip!) and as someone who used to prefer small single pitch routes, climbing up around Dinas Cromlech and Dinas Mot in the Pass wins every time!

Different Strokes!

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Any chance I can squeeze in if space permits? or a may just rock up at the campsite - loz loz, fancy a steamy night with me? call me xx!

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