sorry! didn't realise you'd replied so quickly!

We could take a train leaving selly at 14:32 arriving in matlock bath at 16:21.

The crag is a 20 min walk from the station (approximatley).

The last train back is at 20:40 arriving back in selly at 22:33.

That gives us about 3:20 climbing time and would cost £11.90.

I have a selective guidebook, but it has only 3 climbs below VS!

What do ya say?

p.s what is your phone number?

I will be more than happy to do just 3 climbs today I can second something harder, but I do not really want to lead anything above S, I haven't climbed for a while my phone no. is 07506423900, will be at the station before half two then!

there is something above Matlock with more easy grades, have a look: http://www.ukclimbing.com/logbook/crag.php?id=1464

what does your guidebook cover?

my guidebook only covers wildcat im afraid, besides, we may not have time for more than 3 routes! o well...

Selly oak station at half 2 then? I have both a rack and a 40m single.

I have a rack + set of penises + 60m single... and 2 helmets, do you want me to take one for you? I have the newest club rack so I think it should see some use

cool. can you bring the rack and the rope? the climbs are about 40m long, so the 60 will probably be more useful. Lets go!

and the penises, but i have my own helmet.

ok, will take it then. I suppose you have your own harness