Laurence I'm up for that, I've been wanting to try kinder for ages.

Tom that also sounds good!

my number is 07796013289.

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MILF-Hunter

why not get a couple of cars going to kinder on the 17th?

any famous routes there?

Tom

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TOM

I'd be up for that I don't have a car though.



I don't think so other than the Kinder Downfall when it's frozen, but what you'll find is solitute, beautiful scenery, unpolished rock and like Laurence said no queues.

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MILF-Hunter

Neil says yes please to both laurence and tom H

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Mountain sec .... once upon a time

so definate people coming are

Me
MILF-Hunter
Laurence
Neil

Just one more space left in my car guys

Tom

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TOM

I'm away from the 10th - 18th so the 17th isn't so good for me, unless you guys fancy it another day? Rosie what do you think about checking it out?

Herford's Route at Kinder South and Legacy/Intestate at Kinder North all look like classics though, I've been wanting to get on Herford's Route for a while now

Decent looking climbs at Kinder North:

Misty Wall - VS/4b
Jester Cracks - HVS/5a
Twisted Smile - HVS/5a
Legacy - HVS/5a
Intestate - E1/5b

When are you planning on going? God, look at the weather today, it's amazing...

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massive punter

oh I!, I know where you mean. Up near the snake pass. Beautiful place. I'd be up for checking it out Laurence! Similarly, im busy on the 17th but some other time would be cool! Just say when!

Weather?! Really? Its a rather over cast up north!

Oh Jay Kay... went to Robin Hood's Stride and Cratcliffe yesterday bouldering. Check it out (its in Peak Bouldering!) Was Glorious! Had the place to myself too!

I was just going ask you how long it took to get to that other place in greater manchester... I'm going to see my parents next week so am going to go to bouldering in north Whales if you and Tom fancy a day trip . Steve B is coming. I've got the North Whales guide book and there are so many beach boulders near me it's unbelievable!!

PS . blue sky/breezy/cold If only there was grit in birmingham

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massive punter

Ah that sounds cool! Where do your parents live? On the way to or in North Whales?? Next week was probably the time i was going to Toms which would fit in perfectly! Let us know when you'll be there and im sure we could fix a day up.

(07825578928 is my number )

http://www.ukclimbing.com/logbook/crag.php?id=3997

http://www.ukclimbing.com/logbook/crag.php?id=4027


5 mins from snowdonia

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massive punter

Oh sorry forgot about the first question.

Wimberry (Greater Manchester) From my house was about 45mins but it despends on the traffic up the motorway!

whereabouts do your parents actually live then jaykay? will you be there in the summer?

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Mountain sec .... once upon a time

Probably. Llandudno, it's only really a second home for my rents, but my family are spread out across north Whales. Rhyl, Denbigh, Ruthin.

( lol my moms side all live up north - Newcastle/hartlepool.... )

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